Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/11/2005 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 109 SCREENING NEWBORNS FOR HEARING ABILITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 91 INDECENT EXPOSURE TO MINORS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 219 STRANGULATION CRIMES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 219(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 71 AK PENINSULA OIL & GAS LEASE SALE; TAXES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 123 OCCUPATIONS: FEES & EXTENSION OF BOARDS
Moved CSHB 123(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 219                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to crimes and dangerous instruments."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker,  sponsor, explained that  the idea for                                                                   
the bill  was brought  to him by  an expert forensics  nurse,                                                                   
Ms.  Tara Henry.   The  crime of  strangulation is  currently                                                                   
prosecuted as a  misdemeanor.  The bill would  change that to                                                                   
make  strangulation  a  felony,  a  serious  life-threatening                                                                   
assault.  The  Department of Law, the Public  Safety Employee                                                                   
Association, police  departments, the Alaska  State Troopers,                                                                   
the   domestic  violence   prevention   community,  and   the                                                                   
forensics  community support  this  bill.   HB  219 has  zero                                                                   
fiscal impact  notes, except for  the Public Defender  Agency                                                                   
indeterminate note.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  asked if the bill could  adversely affect                                                                   
a Good Samaritan  or someone performing CPR.   Representative                                                                   
Hawker  added  that  another  possible  concern  is  about  a                                                                   
strangling  occurred in  self-defense.   He  opined that  the                                                                   
bill does not compromise any other  area within criminal law.                                                                   
He shared  a story about  law enforcement training,  which is                                                                   
no longer allowed to use chokeholds.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  asked about this  law as it  applies in                                                                   
other states.  Representative  Hawker noted that is a popular                                                                   
issue in other states.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:10:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TARA HENRY,  SEXUAL ABUSE  NURSE EXAMINER (SANE),  ANCHORAGE,                                                                   
(via teleconference)  related that she is forensic  nurse who                                                                   
provides    expert   testimony    on   assaults,    including                                                                   
strangulation.   Strangulation is  commonly used  in domestic                                                                   
violence   assaults.      She  explained   the   physics   of                                                                   
strangulation and  the lack of  visible symptoms.   She urged                                                                   
the passage of  HB 219 so that these cases  can be prosecuted                                                                   
as felonies.    She listed other states that have,  or are in                                                                   
the process of having, strangulation bills.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft inquired if  the problem is  difficulty                                                                   
in proving the  crime.  Ms. Henry explained  that one problem                                                                   
is  that a  medical  expert is  needed  to  testify in  these                                                                   
cases.    Also,  a  jury is  often  unable  to  see  physical                                                                   
evidence in this crime.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TAMARA DELUCIA,  OFFICE OF  VICTIMS' RIGHTS, ANCHORAGE,  (via                                                                   
teleconference)   related   that   strangulation   is   under                                                                   
prosecuted.   She elaborated  upon the  physical symptoms  of                                                                   
strangulation,  some which  lead to  brain death.   The  bill                                                                   
would not require  the prosecutor to show physical  injury in                                                                   
order to charge  the felony conduct.  She shared  that Alaska                                                                   
ranks number one  in the nation for domestic  violence death,                                                                   
many of  which are a result  of strangulation.   She strongly                                                                   
urged support of HB 219.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:20:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  spoke   to  the  fiscal  notes.    He                                                                   
disagreed  with the  Public Defender  Agency's  indeterminate                                                                   
fiscal note, saying that it should be a zero note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault opined that  there would be increased court                                                                   
costs if  strangulation is  changed from  a misdemeanor  to a                                                                   
felony.  He added that he would not oppose the zero note.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch agreed  with Co-Chair Chenault  and                                                                   
asked what  happens when it  does cost more.   Representative                                                                   
Hawker  explained  the difference  between  an  indeterminate                                                                   
note   and  a   zero  note.     Co-Chair   Meyer  said   that                                                                   
indeterminate notes  are counted as zero notes  for budgeting                                                                   
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch asked  about the dates on the notes.                                                                   
Co-Chair Meyer explained that  the proposed fiscal note would                                                                   
be a zero note.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:27:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holm  wondered if  there  is  an increase  in                                                                   
trial court costs due to felony trials.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker spoke in favor of the zero note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kelly  wondered   if  the   change  from   a                                                                   
misdemeanor  to a  felony would  be easier,  yet riskier,  to                                                                   
prosecute.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:30:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  WILSON,  DEPUTY  DIRECTOR,   PUBLIC  DEFENDER  AGENCY,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION,  (via teleconference) responded                                                                   
that the indeterminate fiscal  note is appropriate.  Felonies                                                                   
are much more costly to prosecute,  even though some domestic                                                                   
violence charges may  be handled by the city.   She predicted                                                                   
that there  would be  more felony  prosecutions and  a fiscal                                                                   
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker said that  the crime of  strangulation                                                                   
is already a felony and this bill  would not change that, but                                                                   
activities  may be realigned  within the  legal process.   He                                                                   
indicated that it works out to  be a zero sum gain within the                                                                   
individual organizations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:33:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer asked  how many  more  case are  anticipated.                                                                   
Ms. Wilson replied she could not guess that number.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer accepted the new zero fiscal note.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:35:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED to  ADOPT Conceptual Amendment 1:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "crimes and dangerous instruments"                                                                                
     Insert "the definition of 'dangerous instrument' as                                                                      
     applied within the criminal code"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                   
tighten  up  the  title  to  include  hands  as  a  dangerous                                                                   
instrument.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  indicated  that  he expected  to  find                                                                   
strangulation  described  under  the  definition  of  serious                                                                   
physical  injury.    He  wondered   why  it  fell  under  the                                                                   
dangerous instruments category.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker   explained  that  was   the  original                                                                   
approach  to   the  bill,  but  legislative   legal  and  the                                                                   
Department  of  Law  agreed  it   would  be  too  wide  of  a                                                                   
definition.   The House  Judiciary Committee determined  that                                                                   
it  is  a  tight,  but not  overriding  bill.    The  current                                                                   
language  is  a  precise,  targeted,  and  effective  way  of                                                                   
accomplishing the intention of the bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft asked for  the Public Defender's opinion                                                                   
whether it is cleaner in the dangerous  instrument definition                                                                   
or in the serious physical definition.   Ms. Wilson responded                                                                   
that Representative  Croft might be confusing  deadly weapons                                                                   
with dangerous  instruments.  She  opined that it  makes more                                                                   
sense to include it with dangerous instruments.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze MOVED  to report  CSHB 219  (FIN) out  of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal impact notes.   There being NO OBJECTION,                                                                   
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  219 (FIN)  was REPORTED  out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation  and  with  three  zero  fiscal  impact                                                                   
notes: #1  CRT, #2  LAW, #3 DPS,  and a  new ADM zero  fiscal                                                                   
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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